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Mid / Pr Knot.
Updated 22,02, 2011
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Braid to Heavier Braid Leader
Plastic to Plastic.
Plait verses Bimini
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Knots Braid to Leader.
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Bimini
Direct.
Results :- Lighter leaders*****
Medium leaders*****
I used a 22 lb braid with
a 0.222 mm average diameter and Not folded in the knot.
20/28 lb leader diam
0.444, Braid Failed at 20.8 lb 94.5%.
30/45 lb leader diam
0.560, it was difficult to do but a similar result. The braid failed at 94%.
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Blood Double Improved. Results :- Lighter
leaders*****
Medium leaders***
V Heavier Leaders Nr
This is a very good knot
for braid to leaders with excellent strength, it can get a little bulky using
heavier leaders.
I used a 22 lb braid with
a 0.222 mm average diameter and Folded in the knot.
6/10 lb leader diam 0.262
can get to 0.93 x 1.12 mm oval in shape around the braid. Leader Failed at 100%
20/28 lb leader diam
0.444, can get to 1.54 x 1.82 mm oval in shape around the braid. Braid Failed at
67%
As can be seen once the
leader is heavier than the braid the braid needs a double in it (bimini twist)
with the 2 legs tied to the leader.
The tag ends come out of
the centre of the knot, opposite each other.
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FG Knot.
Result :-
Nr
Not one that I would use.
The FG knot, had me
intrigued, so I thought I would try it, It is a slim braid to leader knot, where
the end of the leader is heated to form a ball, the braid is twisted and looped
around the leader and then up it's self.
I used 23 lb Whiplash pro braid and 50 lb Sunline FC leader
After tying one I could have done 10 albrights and 8 double bloods, but some of
you seem to use these knots.
Testing it was a little bit of a surprise as the knot pulled apart, the braid
separated at 1/2 the test lb, and popped off the leader, so I tied another.
It needs to be pulled up very tight as it is being tied.
The second test again, as the braid tensions up it embeds into the leader, this
allows the loops within the knot to separate, this then gives room for the loops
to pop off, this knot does allow the braid to tension up on the leader but it
allows the separation of the loops, the braid broke at 50% of it's test value.
This looked like a good knot, but it's not for me, must be better about.
I did a little more on that FG knot using Whiplash pro 30 lb braid and a Bimini
Twist double and it still popped off, this time at 60% of the breaking strain of
the braid.
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GT Knot.
Results on :- Lighter leaders****
Medium leaders***
Bimini to
V Heavier Leaders*****
This knot takes a little
time to do, doing the twists is a little fiddly.
I used a 22 lb braid with
a 0.222 mm average diameter and Not folded in the knot.
6/10 lb leader diam 0.262
can get to 1.19 x 1.23 mm oval in shape around the braid. Leader Failed at
87%
20/28 lb leader diam
0.444, can get to 1.61 x 1.75 mm oval in shape around the braid. Braid Failed at
68%
20/28 lb leader diam
0.444, and a Bimini Twist double in the braid. Braid Failed above the
bimini at 97%
Folding the braid would
not be possible in this knot on thinner leaders.
The tag faces outward from
the knot
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Harro
Knot.
Results on :- Lighter leaders**
Medium leaders*
Bimini to
V Heavier Leaders*****
This knot is simple but
doing the final is a little fiddly getting the braid tag end thru the spiral.
I do not recommend this
knot as the braid tag crosses the braid input line this is where the most of the
pressure is, it then cuts it's self on the leader, as can be seen by the
results.
I used a 22 lb braid with
a 0.222 mm average diameter and Flattened & Folded in the knot.
6/10 lb leader diam 0.262
can get to 1.20 x 1.26 mm round in shape. Braid failed ???? 8.3 lb
20/28 lb leader diam
0.444, can get to 1.34 x 1.48 mm round in shape. Braid Failed ??? 9.72 lb at
44.2%
20/28 lb leader diam
0.444, and a Bimini Twist double in the braid. Braid Failed above the
bimini at 96.9%
The Leader tag faces
forward from the knot
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J Knot.
Results on :- Lighter leaders*****
Medium leaders***
This is a little bit of a
surprise and a little fiddly to do.
I used a 22 lb braid with
a 0.222 mm average diameter and Not folded in the knot.
6/10 lb leader diam 0.262
can get to 1.23 mm around the braid. Leader itself Failed at 97%
20/28 lb leader diam
0.444, can get to 1.75 mm around the braid. Braid Failed at 14.9 lb 68% I tried
to replicate this result but best was 12.6 lb.
The tag faces back and
outward from the knot
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Mid
Knot. Results on :-
Lighter leaders
Nr Medium leaders***
Updated
The
Mid / Pr Knot
are similar in design with the Mid knot being wound by hand the finish being
tied around both the incoming braid and the leader, then finished with a series
of loops around the incoming braid.
This knot takes a little
time to do, the braid is twisted / spiral wound up prior to starting, this helps
the the braid grip onto the leader, careful you do not have a series of knots
rather than loops in the finish, or the braid will cut its self.
I do not recommend these
knots for lighter lines
I used a 22 lb braid with
a 0.222 mm average diameter, flattened but Not folded in the knot.
30/45 lb leader diam
0.560, melted end 1.17mm, is a slim shaped knot braid is wound around the leader
1.21 mm. Braid Failed at 73%
Could I trust it,,, no. As
the main line tightens on the leader, the braid stretches and the leader shrinks
it can unspiral and slip off the leader.
Not so sure if this knot
can be made using a double in the braid. I will leave that open at this stage.
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Pr Knot.
Results on :- Lighter leaders
Nr Medium leaders***
Updated
The
Mid / Pr Knot
are similar in design with the PR knot being wound with a weighted bobbin,
the finish being tied with a series of loops around both the incoming braid and
the leader, this is when the bubble is formed on the end of the leader, then to
finish a series of loops are formed around the incoming braid. Careful you do
not have a series of knots rather than loops in the finish, or the braid will
cut its self.
This Knot relies on the slow spiral of the main line around the leader
increasing the mainlines footprint.
This knot takes a little
time to do and with the PR knot, care is needed when heating the leader to form
the bubble at the end, best is to wet the braid as it will scorch, should the
bubble be formed poorly it can pop off.
When you finish this knot
don't forget to unwind the twists that have been produced in the mainline braid
during the making of this knot.
I do not recommend these
knots for lighter lines
I used a 22 lb braid with
a 0.222 mm average diameter, flattened but Not folded in the knot.
30/45 lb leader diam
0.560, is a slim shaped knot braid is wound around the leader 1.21 mm. Braid
Failed at 73%
Not so sure if this knot
can be made using a double in the braid. I will leave that open at this stage.
Could I trust it,,, no. As
the main line tightens on the leader, the braid stretches and the leader shrinks
so it can slip and pop the head off the leader.
For the guys at the
Ultimate angler send me some of your heavier line to leader knots.
I have
recently done Hollow core Jb 80 to leader knot to 110lb leader
tested at 69.8lb that's only 64% of the braids av abs
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Nail / Centauri
Knot. Results on :-
Lighter leaders***
Medium leaders*
This is a quick knot to do
if you have a tool to do it, and you must wet the braid to make it work.
I used a 22 lb braid with
a 0.222 mm average diameter and Not folded in the knot.
6/10 lb leader diam
0.262 can get to 1.02 x 1.13 mm oval in shape. Leader Failed at 69%, Double
braid 84%+*
20/28 lb leader diam
0.444, can get to 1.65 x 1.98 mm oval in shape. Braid Failed at 47%, Double
braid 55%
One good point is the tag
end is facing back away from the leader.
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Slim Beauty Knot.
Results :- Lighter leaders*
Medium leaders*
Bimini to
Heavier Leaders*****
I tried this knot 3 times
before I did the test, don't know why they call it slim as its not
I used a 22 lb braid with
a 0.222 mm average diameter and Not folded in the knot. 6/10 leader
1, single overhand in the
leader & single braid through, 8 wraps around the leader 3 through loop, it
slipped
2, double overhand in
leader & braid through twice, 8 wraps around the leader 3 through loop, leader
broke
Flattened out and folded
the braid over,
3, double overhand in
leader & braid through twice, 8 wraps around leader 1 through the loop, braid
failed 32%
3, 20/28 lb leader diam
0.444, can get to 1.62 x 1.73 mm oval in shape around the braid. Braid Failed at
54%
3, Same test with a bimini
the two legs through a double overhand, 8 around 1 through loop, Braid Failed at
97%
The tag end does face
backwards at a 45 deg angle, but its a big knot and poorly named.
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Stren
Knot. Results :- Lighter
leaders***
Medium leaders**
Do not pull the leader
knot up to tight before doing the braid knot.
I used a 22 lb braid with
a 0.222 mm average diameter and flattened Not folded in the knot.
6/10 lb leader diam 0.262
can get to 1.20 x 1.35 mm oval in shape around the braid. Leader
Failed at 79%
20/28 lb leader diam
0.444, can get to 1.55 x 1.78 mm oval in shape around the braid. Braid
Failed 12.42 lb, 56%
20/28 lb leader diam
0.444, with the braid flattened and folded. Braid Failed 13.5 lb,
at 61%
This is a Uni on the
leader and a type of clinch / blood on the braid, the braid in this case cuts
itself, due to the braid trying to pull its tag thru the leader knot. It tends
to shred the braid.
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Stren Knot, reversed
knots.
A slight improvement but
nothing to write home about. This may make it a little easier to do.
6/10 lb leader diam 0.262
can get to 1.20 mm in shape around the braid. Leader Failed at
82%
20/28 lb leader diam
0.444, can get to 1.55 mm in shape around the braid. Braid Failed 13.1 lb,
59%
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Twisted leader Knot.
Results :- Lighter leaders***
Medium leaders**
A lot of winding and
fooling about with this one, harder to do on thinner lines.
I used a 22 lb braid with
a 0.222 mm average diameter and flattened Not folded in the knot.
6/10 lb leader diam 0.262
can get to 1.20 x 1.35 mm oval in shape around the braid. Leader
Failed at 81%
20/28 lb leader diam
0.444, can get to 1.56 x 1.68 mm. Braid Failed 12.44 lb, 56%
This is a big knot
and I would try another knot to do.
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Uni
Double Improved. Results,
Lighter leaders***
Medium leaders**
Bimini to
Heavier Leaders*****
(hangmans).
This is a reasonably good
knot for braid to lighter leaders with reasonable strength, it can get a little
bulky using heavier leaders.
Although this is an easy
knot to tie, it is not as strong as the double blood, I use this to tie breaks
in my braid, when I am in a hurry.
I used a 22 lb braid with
a 0.222 mm average diameter and Folded in the knot.
6/10 lb leader diam 0.262
can get to 1.20 x 1.35 mm oval in shape around the braid. Leader
Failed at 79%
20/28 lb leader diam
0.444, can get to 1.55 x 1.78 mm oval in shape around the braid. Braid
Failed at 59%
As can be seen once the
leader is heavier than the braid, the braid needs a double in it (bimini twist)
with the 2 legs tied to the leader. Bimini on 30/45 lb leader diam 0.560, Braid
failed at 97%
Tag end faces out from the
knot, slightly back, this is also known as the fishing fools knot.
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Yucatan Knot. Results on :-
Lighter leaders Nr
Medium leaders Nr
Bimini to
Heavier Leaders*****
This knot was designed to
be used with a loop in this case a bimini was used, went very well.
I used a 22 lb braid with
a 0.222 mm average diameter.
30/45 lb leader diam
0.560, the braid failed at 100% .
With this knot the leader
must form around the braid and on some hard leaders this may not be possible.
I did try this with a
single strand of braid and tying the tag end of the braid to the leader tag,
braid failed at 49% it seems to shred the braid, tried many times on lighter
leaders
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Braid to Heavier Braid as a leader
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New Paulus Light Braid to Heavy Braid.
Leader Knot.
I used a 22 lb braid with
a 0.222 mm average diameter as the Main line and Folded in the knot.
I used a 78 lb braid with
a 0.461 mm average diameter as the Leader and Not Folded in the knot.
1. I joined the two braid
lines using a Uni knot. Result Main line failed at 12.2 lb, 55.4%
2. I joined the two braid
lines using an improved double Blood knot. Result Main line failed at 16.4
lb, 74.5%
A Bimini Direct
3. I joined the two lines
using a Bimini Twist knot. Result Main braid line failed at 21.9 lb, 99.5%
How to,
Bimini Twist knot, but with a difference, I tied onto the end of the main line,
a length of the heavy braid with a simple knot(a), I then made the Bimini, cut
the tag, I then cut the main line (smaller) of the loop at the join(a) and tied
it off onto the heavier line, then cut the thinner line tag off short, this
leaves a very strong join via the bimini to the larger braid leader.
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Plastic to Plastic.
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Blood Double. Results :- Lighter leaders??
Medium leaders***
20/28 lb leader diam 0.444
to 20/28 lb leader, Knot failed at 17.3 lb, 78.6%
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Nail / Centauri
Knot. Results on :- Lighter leaders??
Medium leaders*
20/28 lb leader diam 0.444
to 20/28 lb leader, Knot failed at 12.3 lb, 44%
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Knots Plastic to Terminal.
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To come
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Loops in Lines
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Surgeons End Loop. Results, Lighter
leaders*****
Medium leaders*****
Heavier LeadersNr
20/28 lb Plastic type
leader diam 0.444, Twice through the loop, Line broke at 25.4 lb, 90.7%
In Braids this knot may
give up to 55% of the lines test strength, dependent on braid type.
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Bimini in Braid.
I did a 50 turn bimini on
my Bimini tool,
Test carried out
using Bionic braid 30 lb 8 strand. Tested at
64.74 lb.
On testing it went
48.62 lb, failure was the mainline pulling out and
breaking in the twist. 75.1%
Test carried out
using Pelagic test 22.0 lb
braid with a 0.222 mm diam,
On testing it went
21.9 lb, Main braid line failed at 99.5%.
As can be seen the result
is dependant on the knot ability and the type of braid.
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I did a 50 turn bimini on
the Bimini tool,
Test carried out
using Berkley Trilene 10kg IGFA. Tested
19.55 lb 0.403mm diam,
Testing the loop the
main line it's self failed at 19.32 lb
leaving the bimini and loop intact. 98.8%
This was a better
than expected result. I will do a 15 kg test
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Plait in Braid.
The plait looked very good
and neat, it was about a 100 weave with a 10 weave finish.
Test carried out
using Bionic braid 30 lb 8 strand. Tested at
64.74 lb.
On testing it went
49.14 lb, failure was the mainline pulling out and
breaking at the 10 weave finish point. at the end of the day this is where the
line crosses itself.
Test carried out
using Pelagic test 22.0 lb
braid with a 0.222 mm diam,
Testing the loop the
main line failed at the start of the plait at
15.04 lb leaving the bimini
and loop intact. 68.4%,
I will do a little more with this
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Plait in Mono.
The plait looked very good
and neat, it was about a 100 weave with a 10 weave finish.
Test carried out
using Berkley Trilene 10kg IGFA. Tested
19.55 lb 0.403mm diam, a soft
limp mono.
Testing the loop the
main line it's self failed at 19.30 lb
leaving the Plait and loop intact.
I will do a 15 kg test
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Plait verses Bimini in Braid
Test carried out
using Bionic 30 lb 8 strand. Tested at
64.74 lb this is a very nice limp braid.
I was sent the line and
Plait (loop) by Andrew, he was wondering how the line and the plait would go, it
seams that he uses this plait loop a lot.
The plait looked very good
and neat, it was a 100 weave with a 10 weave finish.
On testing it went
49.14 lb, failure was the mainline pulling out and
breaking at the 10 weave finish point. at the end of the day this is where the
line crosses itself.
I thought I wonder how a
bimini compares to this.
I did a 50 turn bimini on
my Bimini tool, the finish was my special ( Tag, down and up through the 2 legs,
back over the top of both, back down around the back, then through the loop at
the end of the twist) finish with 3 over hand loops.
On testing it went
48.62 lb, failure was the mainline pulling out and
breaking in the twist.
The Plait is just slightly
thinner in the join than the Bimini, not sure as to which is the easier to do,
both take a little time, maybe with the bimini tool the bimini may be an easier
loop to do.
If you are looking at
trolling I would prefer the Bimini as the water pressure on the Plait can push
the start back down the line (if it is not tight enough). The Plait needs some
stretch in the line so it grips and holds, you do not get this with braid.
I seems this braids knot
ability is about at what the results were, and you could not expect a better
result, with some braids we can expect 97%.
Well at the end of the day
with little between them, both work well.
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Plait verses Bimini in Mono
Test carried out
using Berkley Trilene 10kg IGFA. Tested
19.55 lb 0.403mm diam, a soft
limp mono.
The plait looked very good
and neat, it was about a 100 weave with a 10 weave finish. I tried to keep it
similar to the braid one
Testing the loop the
main line it's self failed at 19.30 lb
leaving the Plait and loop intact.
The 50 turn Bimini was
created with the bimini twist tool, the top layer of the twist seemed to be
separated a little as you go from the initial twist to a wrap around.
Testing the loop the
main line it's self failed at 19.32 lb
leaving the bimini and loop intact. this was a better than expected result.
With the bimini result
being as good as it is I think I will redo all my game gear that currently
has Plaits, as I struggle doing them.
With me doing the Plaits
it took time, using the bimini tool is a much quicker way of forming a
double loop.
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